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Lionardo
Joined 19/06/17 Last Visit 20/06/17 2 Posts
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Posted on 19 June 2017 at 20:57:06 GMT Hi, I am new to the historical 6mm world and want to start building a Soviet force '85-'90 to invade my friends Swedish island of Gotland. I do own a painted GHQ Moderns Soviet Combat Command box and would like to expand it a bit but I do not really know what to get... I am thinking about getting some more T-80s, Some nice AA, Artillery and maybe more infantry. Any suggestions on what to buy? I would like to be quite historically correct but not on behalf of coolness... I think our table will be a 8*4 or maybe only a 6*4. /Tommy |
billb
Joined 20/07/05 Last Visit 03/06/19 327 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 04:04:15 GMT GHQ has free order of battle information for many countries located in their military models catalog under free stuff. http://www.ghqmodels.com/pages/military/in... This is the direct link to the Russian order of battle information http://www.ghqmodels.com/pdf/29Russia_USSR... Each element is a platoon so can be directly used for Cold War Commander. Infantry support elements at the company level would be ATGM for BTR and AGS-17 Grenade Launchers for BMP |
billb
Joined 20/07/05 Last Visit 03/06/19 327 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 04:13:12 GMT There is also a Yahoo Group that has more detailed information in their file section https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TOandE... |
sediment
Joined 05/09/09 Last Visit 17/10/21 579 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 09:39:43 GMT The Fire and Fury website has a great OOB section for Cold War forces - it uses 1 stand equals two real world vehicles. I found that really useful for building up useful OOBs. If you're going with 1985-90, it's worth remembering that most T-80s would be serving against NORTHAG and CENTAG facing the best of the NATO armour. I have no idea what the Russians would have allocated to capture Gotland, but at a guess either VDV or Marine infantry, so you would probably not want a lot of up to date armour, mainly upgraded T-55s and T-72s, plus lots of infantry in BMPs or even BTR-50s as I doubt it would have been allocated to 1st echelon troops. Lots of opportunity for some internet research to find a suitable set of units. I doubt the island would have been garrisoned with front line troops either, some sort of territorial force would be my guess. Cheers, Andy |
ianrs54
Joined 08/11/08 Last Visit 19/01/23 1359 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 10:20:05 GMT The troops for the Northern area of operations would be from Leningrad MD. Divisions had T-72 and T55 with various upgrades. APC's would be BMP, and certain divisions would have had MTLB instead of BTR-60/70/80. IanS |
toxicpixie
Joined 09/03/11 Last Visit 17/07/21 2178 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 12:55:43 GMT Upgraded T-55's - they look well tasty Although as it's the pre-boxed Combat Command the OP likely already has T-80's, and as it's "campaign specific" I think Gitland must have been promoted to "area of strategic vital-ness", so top end kit has been supplied to make sure it falls Use the real world TOE's as a guide, and interpret according to taste and your campaign background. |
ianrs54
Joined 08/11/08 Last Visit 19/01/23 1359 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 14:12:26 GMT IE use what you got.... |
toxicpixie
Joined 09/03/11 Last Visit 17/07/21 2178 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 16:19:10 GMT Whoops, just realised I mispelt Gotland There's a Swedish army list here - http://www.blitzkrieg-commander.com/Downlo... - have a look, you'll know what you're facing and can plan accordingly |
sediment
Joined 05/09/09 Last Visit 17/10/21 579 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 18:08:24 GMT I much prefer Gitland, so many places could fall into that category at times. LOL. Cheers, Andy |
Lionardo
Joined 19/06/17 Last Visit 22/06/17 2 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 18:37:27 GMT Wow, thanks for a lot of good answers... I could imagine some kind of airborne battalion or similar. Maybe not a lot of T-80. Today we have Leopard2s on Gotland I think. Maybe no crews, but there are tanks there... I have a couple of friends who where in the army during the 80s. I'll see if I can get them to tell me anything... /Tommy |
collins355
Joined 16/08/09 Last Visit 27/08/21 170 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 20:03:22 GMT Centurions on Gotland in the 1980s I'm afraid. |
sediment
Joined 05/09/09 Last Visit 17/10/21 579 Posts
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Posted on 20 June 2017 at 22:03:43 GMT Some useful lists of the defenders in 1989. Cheers, Andy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_on_... |
toxicpixie
Joined 09/03/11 Last Visit 17/07/21 2178 Posts
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Posted on 21 June 2017 at 09:14:55 GMT Cents are far cooler than Leo 2, so that's even better |
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