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Mr. Average
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Posted on 22 June 2014 at 19:21:33 GMT
After working something approaching 150 hours in two weeks, I determined that this would be a weekend of relaxation, and so I set to the task of building my terrain for my 3mm scale FWC campaign, the First Upheaval. It was with some reluctance, naturally, that I ultimately decided against using Hexon-II tiles, mainly because, undeniably beautiful though they are, the 25-30% surcharge to ship them from the UK was simply more than I could bear.

Instead, I decided to give the foam TerrainMaker tiles from GHQ a throw, and let me say, so far, I have no regrets. They require more handling, naturally, because you have to make them yourself. But one can make tremendous progress on them inside of a weekend, and for my money, they look as good as Hexon tiles, if not better, and are superior for making rivers that look natural and curvy, and overall I'm really pleased with the progress. They are also much, much less expensive, especially if you're in the U.S. By the end of the day I expect to have some photos worth looking at, though at the moment all I have is a lot of tiles with drying paint on them, to wit:



A few thoughts to start, if you should choose to do the same thing:

1) Paint all sides of the hex, including the bottom. Do the sides and bottom before you add flocking to the top - you get better-looking tiles overall. Behr Ultra-Flat latex interior paint gives excellent coverage and can be had in touch-up pots for about $3 each. The process can be a little messy - those plastic shirt covers that come with the dry cleaning make great drop cloths.

2) A hot-element foam cutter is indispensable for making hills. This is where the TerrainMaker system really shines, because no two hills ever look alike, yet if cut with care, will all match up geomorphically. I recommend cutting the angles on the sides first, about 1/4" into the foam block, then cutting the whole thing. That way, you always end out with clean edges. However, I don't recommend this for cutting river tiles, which are only 1/4" thick and tend to deform - an X-Acto knife gives better control and more accurate results.

3) Wood glue seems to give better results than plain white glue when laminating multiple parts of a tile together. No idea why this should be, but there it is. It seems to fill gaps better.

4) Lightweight wall spackling plaster, which can be had in small tubs for touching up walls, is another essential material. It dries quickly to a consistency almost identical to the foam tiles, and so is great for sealing the edges of multi-layer tiles (rivers and hills are made by stacking tile parts and gluing them together). It's also quite durable enough for gaming, and so is useful for building up hills that cut a little short, a consistent issue on smaller hill sides. This avoids the mismatches that can sometimes occur from a slightly inaccurate cut.

5) Sealing the terrain once you've made all the hexes is easily accomplished with a spray bottle and dilute white glue, though Woodland Scenics makes a solution expressly for this purpose that works slightly better, in my limited experience - less glazed-looking in the end.

So there's the project underway. I'm actually enjoying it, which is unusual - typically, terrain building has been a necessary evil to me, but something about these tiles feels very appealing. I'll let you know how this all goes as it progresses!
toxicpixie
United Kingdom
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Posted on 18 January 2015 at 23:18:30 GMT
Looks cracking! Really like the clump foliage terrain Smile
Adam66
Poland
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Posted on 16 July 2015 at 11:54:30 GMT
Very inspiring topic. The hex system looks versatile and user friendly. Easy to create and not expensive.
vicmagpa1
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Posted on 13 December 2015 at 23:06:19 GMT
love it. have it. i just need to improve and clean up mine.Grin
Mr. Average
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Posted on 14 December 2015 at 05:55:43 GMT
Cleanup is the biggest part. I ultimately found the system a bit of a bust because the variation in hex shape caused the layouts to drift across large sections of terrain. I think that, were is possible to do so, getting a CNC shop to custom-cut some foam hexes to a better standard would be the superior way to go with this.

I also, recently, saw this, which piqued my interest, from a similar brain-space:

http://hachimanstoychest.blogspot.com/p/interlocking-modular-terrain-tiles.html

And have also been having some considerably higher success with chipboard hexes from Oddzial Osmy, which are die-cut and much more cleanly shaped. Possibly a better base for the 1/4" thick Terrainmaker hexes, which could be glued to the top. and make the bulk of the terrain, trimming off the excess.
T-Square
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Posted on 16 December 2015 at 23:14:34 GMT
How about 3D printing of the terrain pieces. I just saw some done for settlers of Catan.
Mr. Average
United States
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Posted on 17 December 2015 at 00:52:02 GMT
Would love to, if it were cost-effective. Some day it may become so. Honestly the best compromise on that style of terrain is the Hexon-II material from Kallistra.
Caratacon
England
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Last Visit 12/07/20
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Posted on 17 December 2015 at 12:03:57 GMT
In UK, I have seen a few suppliers doing Kallistra Hexon style terrain (10cm/4" across flats, 6-hex tiles) in laser cut MDF at shows. Not sure how this compares cost-wise and I doubt it includes Hexon's clever little clips to hold it all together. I also haven't seen anything like the accessories (hills, etc.) Kallistra do, so it looks like they still 'own' that type of terrain.
MarkJ Grin
T-Square
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Posted on 17 December 2015 at 17:06:04 GMT
Hexon tiles are great. Kinda expensive for this side of the pond. I was looking at them and lusting over them a few years ago.
Caratacon
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Posted on 17 December 2015 at 19:29:39 GMT
Pretty expensive this side of the pond as well. A flat 6' x 4' table worth, unflocked costs £100. Flocked costs £150. Add in slopes, hills, other features, etc. and it all starts to add up fast! They do look pretty nice though and I am often tempted when I see them at shows and such.
MarkJ Grin
toxicpixie
United Kingdom
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Posted on 18 December 2015 at 09:07:56 GMT
Every time I see them at a show I'm tempted, then I look at the price and my wallet cries out in fear Wink

And storage space. Even though they actually pack up pretty tight, I'm not sure I have the space...
Mr. Average
United States
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Posted on 19 December 2015 at 01:00:48 GMT
The main thing is that in spite of the modular build they retain a very high startup cost. I got my set as a gift, and I love it but I did not buy one myself for many years because of the fact that you're in for close to $300 if you're starting from scratch. There are economical options to defray that - premade foam terrain from War-Zone.com is very workmanlike, albeit tending towards the more heavily stylized. I have one of their "icelands" sets for battle on the Ettorep Glacier.
toxicpixie
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Posted on 21 December 2015 at 11:15:44 GMT
Oo, I like that they're foldable, that's handy!

I have a pile of TSS boards in the loft that seldom come out. Bit of a hassle moving them these days tbh.
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