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big dave
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Posted on 11 June 2012 at 16:27:30 GMT
I'm about to paint my 3mm German tank battalion (assuming I ever work out which are the Pz.3s and Pz.4s)but what colour are they, grey?
pete
Wales
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Posted on 11 June 2012 at 17:33:06 GMT
Early ones gray overpainted with sand, then later on sand.
ianrs54
England
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Posted on 11 June 2012 at 18:11:52 GMT
No pete - GREY, oversparyed with sand and water. Then dunkengleb(SP), then some in Tunisia had green or green red cammo.

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big dave
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Posted on 11 June 2012 at 18:50:10 GMT
When does early end and later begin?
NTM
England
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Posted on 11 June 2012 at 19:59:38 GMT
From Mike Starmer on Matador Models site;

1941 – The DAK land in Panzer Grey. This is horrible, so they daub their tanks pretty fully in mud in embarrassment at the smart Caunter pattern British tanks (which are just about to stop being Caunter anyway).



1941 - HM 1941 281 institutes a two tone tropical scheme of a RAL 8000 Gelbbraun/Grunbraun base with 1/3 overpainting in RAL 7008, described by Culver and Murphy as “Grey Green” and by Steve Zaloga as “Graubraun”. According to www.miniatures.de this is “Graugrun” or “Khakibraun”. The mix quoted on the web for 8000 is Humbrol 118+93. I’ve come close to Chory’s chip and colour photos with 26 and a touch of 118, but in bright sunlight it could pass for 26. 7008 is very like raw Revell 86 in artificial light, but in sunlight it’s browner


1942 – HM 1942 Nr.315 of 25 March introduces a base of RAL 8020 Braun with 1/3 overpainting in RAL7021(Grau). Fighting was mainly in western end of Libya, which is very pinky sandy coloured and it seems that 8020 was a warm sand/sandy pink. This has been authenticated from both veteran’s accounts and surviving paint (inside Bovington’s Kettenkrad) to 3pts Humbrol 94 to 1pt Humbrol 61 Flesh. 61 is one of the most horrible flesh colours marketed, but here it produces something not dissimilar to the British SCC11b “Desert Pink”. Chory has 5xHumbrol63+1x93+1x61 – rather stronger, and very like SCC11b, which it seems to resemble in black and white photos.

http://matadormodels.co.uk/tank_museum/xcamo_ww...
big dave
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Posted on 12 June 2012 at 00:41:55 GMT
Excellent, cheers!
Panzer-Kalle
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Posted on 12 June 2012 at 14:41:17 GMT
Picture showes a heavy armoured car with the older Africa camo (2/3 greenbrown 1/3 greygreen)and a Marder III with the later camo (2/3 yellowbrown 1/3 sandgrey (both clors rather light.

http://1.1.1.1/bmi/kalleswarmaster.pbworks.com/...
big dave
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Posted on 12 June 2012 at 16:33:40 GMT
Kalle your link doesn't open. Sad
pete
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Posted on 12 June 2012 at 16:47:27 GMT
big dave
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Posted on 12 June 2012 at 17:05:57 GMT
Cheers Pete
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